Poll #5 ~ The 'Little' things

[Neith]

Please take the time to complete the following:
POLL #5

For those that have never done a poll in the past, all of the results can be found here:
In the sticky thread titled "Poll Results"

The results of this poll will be pasted in the above link as well.


I took some time and I read the posts here from other people about the small things in MMO's that they wished were here. I compiled it in a poll. I then asked my Guild to add to the poll as well. If I missed anything that was mentioned in the past, I apologize.

Thank you for participating in the polls.

[Loreki]

I should elaborate on my answers in the interests of best possible feedback.

I would be interested in having a /e system like WoW whereby players can write their own actions. I think a large set of ready set emoticons is a bit redundant.

I would like to see wraith playable but not ancients (they all ascended or died watch the series) or ori they dead!

If you mean the followers of Ori, I would like to see an ori faction players could join much like players should be able to be loyal or free jaffa, however the children of the Ori are not any one race.

I begrudgingly support a roleplaying tag because I'd prefer the entire game to be roleplay. The natural public channels (things your character could actually do, speak, whisper, shout) should be IC at all times. Unnatural and private channels such as trade channels and party chat would be up to the player. Trade channels and the like don't really fit IC and are more of a practicality. Private channels are your call.

[Renfail]

Originally Posted by Loreki

I begrudgingly support a roleplaying tag because I'd prefer the entire game to be roleplay. The natural public channels (things your character could actually do, speak, whisper, shout) should be IC at all times. Unnatural and private channels such as trade channels and party chat would be up to the player. Trade channels and the like don't really fit IC and are more of a practicality. Private channels are your call.

Be sure to preface such statements with "in my opinion"

After all, until you pay my monthly fee, you have zero right to tell me which channels should hold which kind of chatter, nor do you have the right to determine what other people consider "IC". I find it really odd how roleplayers always go around demanding that people play the game a certain way, when they have zero rights to do so.

On a side note, I took the poll also

[Aten]

As always, Neith, good poll. You really do know your MMORPGs. A few things I knew existed from my days on SWG and CoH. Though, a few things were new to me. Like I didn't know some games had an "RP Tag" to let people know they roleplayed.

[Renfail]

LOTRO does it well. When you type /roleplay on, it turns your name white so that other people can easily recognize you.

[Lucent]

I strongly disagreed with most of that poll. Sorry

Thank You for all the work you do on the polls

[Loreki]

Originally Posted by Renfail

Be sure to preface such statements with "in my opinion"

After all, until you pay my monthly fee, you have zero right to tell me which channels should hold which kind of chatter, nor do you have the right to determine what other people consider "IC". I find it really odd how roleplayers always go around demanding that people play the game a certain way, when they have zero rights to do so.

On a side note, I took the poll also

Kinda figured that was conveyed by the "i support" that it was my opinion.

[Renfail]

Originally Posted by Loreki

Kinda figured that was conveyed by the "i support" that it was my opinion.

Would you be willing to sign the following, as a roleplayer?


I will never:

Berate someone for using LoL, LFG, or any form of l33t speak in any channel. If I don't like the way a channel sounds, or if someone is getting on my nerves, I will simply use the ignore button or turn the channel off. I do not have the right to belittle someone else's chosen style of gameplay nor do I have the right to tell someone how to play their game.

Refuse to group with someone because they don't play their character a certain way within group chat or /say, or any other channel. I do not have the right to belittle someone else's chosen style of gameplay nor do I have the right to tell someone how to play their game.

Act as though I am a channel police and reprimand people for using the channel in what I alone deem to be an improper manner. I do not have the right to belittle someone else's chosen style of gameplay nor do I have the right to tell someone how to play their game.

Report a name. I do not have the right to belittle someone else's chosen style of gameplay nor do I have the right to tell someone how to play their game, name their character, or how to speak.

Form a community of like-minded players whose sole purpose is to gather together and bemoan the fact that everyone outside of my community is ruining my gameplay through their choice of playstyle, naming, or lifestyle. I do not have the right to belittle someone else's chosen style or gameplay, nor do I have the right to tell someone how to play the game, name their character, or how to speak.

Look at another person's chosen style of play and deem it "incorrect" or "wrong". I do not have the right to belittle someone else's chosen style of gameplay, nor do I have the right to tell someone how to play the game, name their character, or how to speak.

Complain about how the game mechanics are specifically and with malicious intent geared towards players outside of my own chosen playstyle mentality. I do not have the right to belittle someone else's chosen style of gameplay, nor do I have the right to tell someone how to play the game, name their character, or how to speak.


I only ask because, In My Opinion, your post seemed to be rather judgemental and biased. Correct me if I'm wrong, please Cuz it sounded to me like you were saying you want the right to tell other people how to play their game.

[lalapb]

Originally Posted by Loreki

I should elaborate on my answers in the interests of best possible feedback.

I would be interested in having a /e system like WoW whereby players can write their own actions. I think a large set of ready set emoticons is a bit redundant.

I would like to see wraith playable but not ancients (they all ascended or died watch the series) or ori they dead!

The Ori arent dead between seasons 8 and 9.

Originally Posted by Aten

As always, Neith, good poll. You really do know your MMORPGs. A few things I knew existed from my days on SWG and CoH. Though, a few things were new to me. Like I didn't know some games had an "RP Tag" to let people know they roleplayed.

You havent played SWG in aWhile I take it. There have been RP tags for over a year. Thats how we tag our non-combatants in guild wars.

[Loreki]

Originally Posted by lalapb

The Ori arent dead between seasons 8 and 9.



You havent played SWG in aWhile I take it. There have been RP tags for over a year. Thats how we tag our non-combatants in guild wars.

Fair enough but their physical bodies are long dead and if you were to play living ori it'd be really really hard to balance, in the show the Orici and Priors massive abilities are balanced out by the fact there's only one of them. A group of multiple priors would be hard to make fair while remaining true to their scary super powered feel.

Renfall: I don't like the way you imply that roleplayers ***** and moan pointlessly and your effort to make me the bad guy for expressing my opinion. Sometimes roleplayers are in the right, for example with naming policies or roleplay policies. I would never belittle any style of play but reserve the right to enforce the rules. As a roleplayer I support the idea of roleplay servers to protect how myself and others like to play. There's nothing criminal about this.

Our style of play favours total emersion and loss in the fantasy, we like others have a right to play how we like. Our style of play rarely disrupts OOC play. So I think all roleplayers have a certain right to ask for a little respect from non-roleplayers and to ask that you keep all "lolz" away from active roleplays in the interests of our game experience.

[Twisted1616]

By "I would like to play one of the following in the future of SGW: Wraith, Ori, and/or Ancient" I assume you mean Followers of Origin or Children of the Ori, instead of the "Ori" themselves?

[lalapb]

Originally Posted by Loreki

Fair enough but their physical bodies are long dead and if you were to play living ori it'd be really really hard to balance, in the show the Orici and Priors massive abilities are balanced out by the fact there's only one of them. A group of multiple priors would be hard to make fair while remaining true to their scary super powered feel.

Renfall: I don't like the way you imply that roleplayers ***** and moan pointlessly and your effort to make me the bad guy for expressing my opinion. Sometimes roleplayers are in the right, for example with naming policies or roleplay policies. I would never belittle any style of play but reserve the right to enforce the rules. As a roleplayer I support the idea of roleplay servers to protect how myself and others like to play. There's nothing criminal about this.

Our style of play favours total emersion and loss in the fantasy, we like others have a right to play how we like. Our style of play rarely disrupts OOC play. So I think all roleplayers have a certain right to ask for a little respect from non-roleplayers and to ask that you keep all "lolz" away from active roleplays in the interests of our game experience.

I realize that it would be impossible to balance them and keep them the same way they are in the series. Thats why I only pointed out the fact they arent dead.

oh and as far as loling in spatial, sorry but that is just open ground for everyone to say what they want. How the **** am I supposed to know there is some roleplaying going on around me? I am sure I will be to busy playing my game to be concerned about yours.

[GermanShepherd]

Originally Posted by Renfail

Would you be willing to sign the following, as a roleplayer?

As a roleplayer, I have to jump in here and toss out a little something...

All those things you listed? I do. But I only do them when I'm playing on an RP realm. When it comes to normal realms? I (and others) realize that it's not specifically for roleplaying, and that if we want to roleplay, then we have to find our own niche... But what if people are blabbing "leetspeek" (or whatever you call it these days) or not playing In-Character or have a name akin to MegaBlasterAsgardMan when they're playing on a roleplaying realm? Should those of us who are playing on an RP realm have the right to do something about it or not? Those of us who are trying to get away from people who clearly don't want to roleplay?

I think your argument is a bit too broad. If you don't want to roleplay, don't pick a roleplay realm. If you pick a roleplay realm, and don't roleplay, you're going to have each and every one of those things done to you at one time or another because, frankly, you're completely, selfishly trashing the mood for everyone else. None of us really care if you're using your monthly fee how you want if you're going to be griefing a realm catering specifically to roleplaying.

However, if I was playing a normal or PvP realm, for example? Then I completely agree that it would be us out of our element and we would have to cater to those who have a right to not roleplay when it's not a roleplay realm in the first place. I started playing WoW on a normal realm, Kilrogg, and I was there for 70 whole levels before I decided to pick up and move because I was tired of seeing really weird names... I realized that I really didn't have a right to complain and report the names, because, under the normal realm policies, they had perfect rights to use those names and act that way. I moved to the RP realm Sentinels and... Now I can report stupid names, because it's against the policies.

[Loreki]

Originally Posted by lalapb

I realize that it would be impossible to balance them and keep them the same way they are in the series. Thats why I only pointed out the fact they arent dead.

oh and as far as loling in spatial, sorry but that is just open ground for everyone to say what they want. How the **** am I supposed to know there is some roleplaying going on around me? I am sure I will be to busy playing my game to be concerned about yours.

Well if it isn't painstackingly obvious (visible roleplay speech and actions) within your 'earshot' you'd be entitled to do whatever you like. But you'd be surprised how many rude individuals come up to you, say when your characters are clearly talking IC, and say "lolz" and other such wonderful phrases.

[Lucent]

Originally Posted by Twisted1616

By "I would like to play one of the following in the future of SGW: Wraith, Ori, and/or Ancient" I assume you mean Followers of Origin or Children of the Ori, instead of the "Ori" themselves?

I wouldn't mind playing a Prior. it could be a sort of caster class and still be balanced while following the story line.

[Captain_Quint]

Well I think we know my answer for number 13

[lalapb]

Originally Posted by Loreki

Well if it isn't painstackingly obvious (visible roleplay speech and actions) within your 'earshot' you'd be entitled to do whatever you like. But you'd be surprised how many rude individuals come up to you, say when your characters are clearly talking IC, and say "lolz" and other such wonderful phrases.

I am pretty sure I would be entitled to do whatever I want whether your bracketed RP text was visible or not. I would not go out of my way to disrupt it but I am not going to change the way I play so you can have undisturbed RP. Maybe I dont like to see RP going on. It works both ways.

[Neith]

The problem centered around SGW as far as I am concerned is that there will be a PvE Centric Server and a PvP Centric Server. Nothing has been mentioned about a Roleplay Server as far as I know.

As many of you know, mixing the different playstyles together is sometimes a pain. But making a server for each and every playstyle is ridiculous too.

Flagging yourself as a RP is a decent addition to any regular server IMO. It takes nothing away, only adds to.

Lucent: No biggie. Some people could care less about the little things. They just want a stable game with content to accomplish and/or PvP to be had. I am much the same way, but the little things keep me, most games can accomplish the rest and if they dont- then I dont play either way. Most of the little things are for those that like to stay for longer periods and they are more of a socializing factor as well. But it's not for everyone.


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[zildjin81]

what do you mean by "not available" do you mean like dont care

[Duncan Idaho]

Voted strongly agree for all but 2 of them I think. I am all for more content in a game, whether I plan on using that content or not. I particularly liked #11, the RP tag option. While I don't RP myself, I do make an effort to RP in my dealings with RP'ers so as not to break their immersion. Them having a tag would help me help them so to speak.

[Neith]

Originally Posted by Loreki

I would like to see wraith playable but not ancients (they all ascended or died watch the series) or ori they dead!

If you mean the followers of Ori, I would like to see an ori faction players could join much like players should be able to be loyal or free jaffa, however the children of the Ori are not any one race.

Ancients
arent all dead or Ascended. Shephard goes to that virtual world and is with many Ancients that are working toward Ascension.

Later the Ancients return home, only to be later killed by Replicators.

I am only up to Season IV of Atlantis, but they arent all dead. They keep finding more and more Ancients with each Season. The last ones that returned home were in great number.

They also found the Aurora which had many Ancients in the freeze capsules. You could include Ancients in the game as they are not dead. There's just not much known.

The ascended Ancients also have a choice to take the form of a Human Body as well, which leads to a way of becoming a human body again instead of being ascended.

You also have the Ascended being that has interfered with world affairs that is stuck on the particular planet.


Ori

As far as the Season goes, we are between Seasons 8-9 where the Ori, children of Ori, and Priors are still present. They aren't dead and even after the Ark of Truth, the priors are alive and thriving. Maybe a little down that they have been following a false God, but whatever- they are still there.

As far as playing an Ascended being or a Ori itself- I dont think it should be done, unless they could be nothing more than a social player. If they could be nothing more than a social being, then it would not be fair. But some players- myself included- dont mind just being social after a long time. If they allowed a player to Ascend after X amount of years just to become social- I would stick around just because of the status.

[Neith]

Originally Posted by zildjin81

what do you mean by "not available" do you mean like dont care

Yeah, I just changed it to N/A. If it is not applicable to you, then just check that one. Same as I dont care, but someone asked to have an N/A instead of Dont care option.

[Saikron]

Well designed poll. Looking forward to the results.

[Maohir]

i love these polls neith, good job on all of them

[Loreki]

Originally Posted by Neith

Ancients
arent all dead or Ascended. Shephard goes to that virtual world and is with many Ancients that are working toward Ascension.

Later the Ancients return home, only to be later killed by Replicators.

I am only up to Season IV of Atlantis, but they arent all dead. They keep finding more and more Ancients with each Season. The last ones that returned home were in great number.

They also found the Aurora which had many Ancients in the freeze capsules. You could include Ancients in the game as they are not dead. There's just not much known.

The ascended Ancients also have a choice to take the form of a Human Body as well, which leads to a way of becoming a human body again instead of being ascended.

You also have the Ascended being that has interfered with world affairs that is stuck on the particular planet.


Ori

As far as the Season goes, we are between Seasons 8-9 where the Ori, children of Ori, and Priors are still present. They aren't dead and even after the Ark of Truth, the priors are alive and thriving. Maybe a little down that they have been following a false God, but whatever- they are still there.

As far as playing an Ascended being or a Ori itself- I dont think it should be done, unless they could be nothing more than a social player. If they could be nothing more than a social being, then it would not be fair. But some players- myself included- dont mind just being social after a long time. If they allowed a player to Ascend after X amount of years just to become social- I would stick around just because of the status.

The ancients are mostly dead and buried or ascended. The fact Atlantis does the odd story about the last few should not be taken as any indication that they are a viable race. The ancients experience a variety of different extinction events (the plague/the wraith) and it would be highly destructive of the canon to have 1000s of unascended ancients running around.
As we know from Daniel and Orlan descending with any sizeable quantity of ancient knowledge left is firstly, not allowed by ancient rules and two, highly damaging to human physiology.

The Ori and their followers possess so much power that it'd be hard to balance them and still leave their inherent semi-divine appearance intact.