In Game Voice Chat

[Lt. R. Perez]

Alright, many guilds in other games use voice chat such as Team Speak or Ventrilo. Stargate Worlds is probably the most likely game where voice chat should exist between team members.

I am hoping and praying that Stargate Worlds will have an in game voice chat program, so I don't have to use another program while the game is running.

This would help a lot with grouping with strangers, because typing doesn't make sense at all. If the game had a voice chat program built in, more people would use the program and the game will be more realistic. Maybe Cheyenne Mountain Entertainment can make a special collectors edition that has a working Stargate Atlantis headset. That way we will be more likely to use the voice chat program in game. What do you all think?

[Aalamron]

great idea. i love useing ventrillo. the only problem with your idea though, is all those jerks on Xbox live who sing and stuff would really ruin it... :-/

[Mal]

not a fan of voice chat so i am hoping it doesn't feature this.

i have a anti-voice policy for the most part i just don't get into the whole talk on a voice program while playing style... i prefer the old fashioned text.

[EkEMaN]

Originally Posted by Mal

not a fan of voice chat so i am hoping it doesn't feature this.

i have a anti-voice policy for the most part i just don't get into the whole talk on a voice program while playing style... i prefer the old fashioned text.

I agree for the most part. There are some that just yell into it or speak in such a way that you don't understand a word they say, but there are some that you can actually understand. It's fun playing with them but not wiht the other ones.

[Lt. R. Perez]

Originally Posted by Mal

not a fan of voice chat so i am hoping it doesn't feature this.

i have a anti-voice policy for the most part i just don't get into the whole talk on a voice program while playing style... i prefer the old fashioned text.

And I totally think you shouldn't be forced to use the voice chat feature, but I think it would be great if players were given more options. From my perspective, a Stargate MMO without a voice chat feature does not follow the canon of Stargate, since voice chat is highly common in every single show.

[EkEMaN]

Originally Posted by Lt. R. Perez

And I totally think you shouldn't be forced to use the voice chat feature, but I think it would be great if players were given more options. From my perspective, a Stargate MMO without a voice chat feature does not follow the canon of Stargate, since voice chat is highly common in every single show.

Yeah, but some of the guys can be so irritating that they should just use ventrilo

[Mal]

Originally Posted by Lt. R. Perez

And I totally think you shouldn't be forced to use the voice chat feature, but I think it would be great if players were given more options. From my perspective, a Stargate MMO without a voice chat feature does not follow the canon of Stargate, since voice chat is highly common in every single show.

i agree with you about options the only problem that occurs is people would start to outcast people who didn't use voice... and people who didn't use it would end up not being allowed to be in certain guilds or join certain groups so in reality it sort of ends up as being an option but not really being an option because if you choose not to use it you miss out on alot of things.

that is the only reason i would vote against it completely and vote more for a single format rather then a multi format.. because of some people use voice and some use text it creates a divide between them.

and i would assume that in this type of game which seems to be like a squad type of game that voice would be popular with some people and people who didn't use it would be more outcasted.

[EkEMaN]

Originally Posted by Mal

i agree with you about options the only problem that occurs is people would start to outcast people who didn't use voice... and people who didn't use it would end up not being allowed to be in certain guilds or join certain groups so in reality it sort of ends up as being an option but not really being an option because if you choose not to use it you miss out on alot of things.

that is the only reason i would vote against it completely and vote more for a single format rather then a multi format.. because of some people use voice and some use text it creates a divide between them.

and i would assume that in this type of game which seems to be like a squad type of game that voice would be popular with some people and people who didn't use it would be more outcasted.

Yeah, that's why i think they should just use ventrilo

[Lt. R. Perez]

People are going to use voice chat anyway, i'd prefer to use one that is provided in game.

[Mal]

Originally Posted by EkEMaN

Yeah, that's why i think they should just use ventrilo

agreed!

to create support for a voice feature would immediately be outcasted those who didn't like it.... to offer support for a 3rd party voice program gives those who want to use it an option but doesn't make those who don't want to use it feel forced to use something they don't like.

3rd party all the way gets my vote.

[EkEMaN]

Originally Posted by Lt. R. Perez

People are going to use voice chat anyway, i'd prefer to use one that is provided in game.

Yes but then everybody could hear it and it can get pretty annoying and also they might then be outcasted like Mal said

[Lt. R. Perez]

Originally Posted by EkEMaN

Yes but then everybody could hear it and it can get pretty annoying

That wouldn't be a problem since each member in the group would have to join a chat channel to hear it. Instead of blocking the idea, perhaps we should try to build a community where outcasting is discouraged?

[EkEMaN]

Originally Posted by Lt. R. Perez

That wouldn't be a problem since each member in the group would have to join a chat channel to hear it. Instead of blocking the idea, perhaps we should try to build a community where outcasting is discouraged?

Ok, if it would be like that then i'm cool with it.

[Mal]

Originally Posted by Lt. R. Perez

That wouldn't be a problem since each member in the group would have to join a chat channel to hear it. Instead of blocking the idea, perhaps we should try to build a community where outcasting is discouraged?

people would not let you join unless you used voice i seen it happen in games before... where you are forced to use voice or you can't be in a guild or join a group.. not a fun feeling to be forced into anything.

i am all for outcasting being discouraged but it is not likely to happen.... because some peope using voice and some people not it is very hard to communicate with each other... one person says some stuff on voice and the text people don't hear it and then either they don't follow along or someone then has to take the time to translate it to text for those people.... so to avoid this people take on sides those who use it and those who don't and you are basically forced to join one side or the other.

it's possible this wouldn't happen but i have seen it happen with my own eyes.

[EkEMaN]

Originally Posted by Mal

people would not let you join unless you used voice i seen it happen in games before... where you are forced to use voice or you can't be in a guild or join a group.. not a fun feeling to be forced into anything.

i am all for outcasting being discouraged but it is not likely to happen.... because some peope using voice and some people not it is very hard to communicate with each other... one person says some stuff on voice and the text people don't hear it and then either they don't follow along or someone then has to take the time to translate it to text for those people.... so to avoid this people take on sides those who use it and those who don't and you are basically forced to join one side or the other.

it's possible this wouldn't happen but i have seen it happen with my own eyes.

####, now i don't know who to side with. Altough i have never noticed this. Altough a guild that i was in only let you go to the next rank if you used ventrilo to chat with other members of the guild

[Dan Carley]

I don't think voice will actually be added in to the game but u can always use TS like alot of guilds in swg do to do pvp etc.

[Årgonath]

Adn integrated chatting system woul dbe good, especially if with the special edition Atlantis expansion (or whetever) bos set you get an Atlmantis style headset.
Simple way of blocking out singrs and so on, is simply to have chat requests, so you have to request to talk to someone, they click yes and you get to chat so long as no one leavs the same map or clicks "stop chat". If it is a sound spammer then just click stop chat and ignore their requests. If you wanna talk and they don't accept then tough for them, if they then request text chat accept and they tell you they don't have a mic so you'l have to txt with them. No aporblem but speakin is much better than typing, especially during combat.

[RogueStryder]

Originally Posted by Mal

not a fan of voice chat so i am hoping it doesn't feature this.

i have a anti-voice policy for the most part i just don't get into the whole talk on a voice program while playing style... i prefer the old fashioned text.

Its not for everyone, but it does bring games to life atleast for me. Gives a game new feel.

[Bishop]

The first game that I played online that featured in game chat between team members was Battlefield 2.

and to be honest, it added another level of realism to it.

If it is done right regarding netcode and making sure that latency issues are considered....it can REALLY bring a game to life.

Regarding SGW, I can see it fitting in very nicely between a team of 4....

My vote would be for yes, give us the option to turn on group voice comms

[Teal Thanatos]

I'd like to see voice-chat, but not as a general thing.
IE: Voice-chat only works in either
A) Guilds
B) Teams
C) 'Channels'

The 'Channels' would reflect radio frequencies, the only people who hear you are those on your frequency, anyone can tune in though.
Teams use encryption, higher level code-breakers or something on the enemy side can break this and listen in if the enemy is nearbye.
Guilds have higher quality encryption and is mostly unbreakable. There should be plot instances where it can be though.

Voice-Chat can be detected by anyone with the right devices, when the device is on the longer the voice chat is, the better the detection points them out. IE, a five second radio burst would give the general direction, a ten second would give an accurate direction and a range (approximate) and a fifteen second would give Accurate Range, Direction & grid-coordinates if a GPS or similar is being available.

[BC - 303]

i agree with that guy, i was thinking this the other day, and alot of chatter would be annoying, but being able to yell to your team of gliders would be alot better then typing it all.

[Årgonath]

I'd also like a voice function you could turn on and off, if it's on whatever you say is heard by those around you, the sound getting louder the closer you get and mor and more faint the further away you get. Obviously have the option to put in some vocal ear plugs.
I just don't think that the idea of tuning into your mate's radio frequency when he's standing next to you.

[mdinak]

Im pro integrated voice chat, its awesome, heres why:

One: For those arguing it would make guilds "force" you to use it, thats just a bad argument, since if they were going to do that, they'd force you to use Ventrilo anyways...so it fixes nothing, in fact its HARDER, because they would have to download and learn how to use a program outside of the game, to where if it were in game, it would be seamlessly integrated.

Two: It fits the setting so much, that it would in my opinion break the game, if it didnt have it. Squad based combat? Ship to ship communication? These things are VITAL, in a Stargate world.

Three: Any annoyances from players "singing, no clear voice, jerks, etc...", could all be turned off. Any voice program worth its beans, needless to say an integrated one, has "mute" features, and volume controls, etc.

[Rryst]

Originally Posted by mdinak

Im pro integrated voice chat, its awesome, heres why:

One: For those arguing it would make guilds "force" you to use it, thats just a bad argument, since if they were going to do that, they'd force you to use Ventrilo anyways...so it fixes nothing, in fact its HARDER, because they would have to download and learn how to use a program outside of the game, to where if it were in game, it would be seamlessly integrated.

If it part of the game then the number of people/gulids requiring it's use would be greater. Currently about 10% of people use voice chat in MMOs (don't ask me where I got those figures becuase I can't remeber), if voice was intergrated into the game itself that number would rise dramatically and likewise those people unwilling to group with anyone not using it would increase correspondingly.

Originally Posted by mdinak

Two: It fits the setting so much, that it would in my opinion break the game, if it didnt have it. Squad based combat? Ship to ship communication? These things are VITAL, in a Stargate world.

I agree. The communication lines are still there, however. As text, like any of these type of games. Further, having players using their own voices is a much greater immersion breaker than not having voice at all. What could be worse than a deep, base voice speaking the words of the female scientist next to you, or a squeaky 10yr olds voice coming from the lips of the seasoned Jaffa warrior?

Originally Posted by mdinak

Three: Any annoyances from players "singing, no clear voice, jerks, etc...", could all be turned off. Any voice program worth its beans, needless to say an integrated one, has "mute" features, and volume controls, etc.

If communication is based around voice, which it will be if it's an intergrated system, then turning someone off is doing more than cutting out annoying foilbles, it's cutting yourself off from all communication with that person. Like you said, communication is important. You'd just have to grim and bare it. On top of that is the fact that the behaviour is likely to be worse than with text becuase people know it can't be effectively logged and thus can't be used as evidence for disciplinary action.

[AlphaWave]

Personally I would like to have this feature, but I don’t like using 3rd party software. So unless they have it integrated I will be disadvantaged, and so will anyone that I’m coordinating with.

I’m sure this would probably already be done by 3rd party operators, but it should be possible to make it so this feature must be unlocked once the age of the player is verified. They could also make it so if you personally mute someone (change the link between you and them to text only) it could change their voice status making them easier to filter.

Also I’m not sure if saying that this data can’t be effectively logged will be relevant even 6 months down the track since memory increases even faster the Moore’s law when it comes to affordability. Take the new holographic memory drives for instance, they will be able to store terabytes of data on each disc and are practically designed for this kind of application.