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[Gizkaguy]

/wildapplause
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wtf this ****s phail1

[Kalypso]

Originally Posted by Floyd

Drop the negativity already. Don't like how the program's going? Leave.

Want to see more? Stick around and stop being ***** *** *****es.

Grow a pair and ****ing suck it up. The amount of people *****ing is ridiculous.

Flame on! Floyd out.

Addendum: Go play WoW. Or sign up for TOR. Leave us SGWers alone.

do you expect the girl gamers to grow a pair too???

and i have played WoW, and left, and i have been following TOR since its announcement... but for now i have TOR which looks more promising already but i suppose i just have to wait and continue playing 360 for now

[J-Slh]

Originally Posted by Floyd

Drop the negativity already. Don't like how the program's going? Leave.

Want to see more? Stick around and stop being ***** *** *****es.

Grow a pair and ****ing suck it up. The amount of people *****ing is ridiculous.


Flame on! Floyd out.



Addendum: Go play WoW. Or sign up for TOR. Leave us SGWers alone.

*yawn*

[Renfail]

Originally Posted by Fumbles

If CME wants to cultivate a positive image, they need to put in the effort, if they don't well look around... the negative image surrounding this game starts and ends with CME.

The crux of the issue is RIGHT there.

This is by FAR the worst company I have ever seen representing a game. The absolute lack of professionalism, the absolute free-for-all-flame-fest that are their forums, the absolute lack of any sort of professional courtesy, professional moderation, combined with their seemingly complete disregard for the community...it pretty much all stacks up against them.

There are about 8-12 people I can think of off-hand who actually support the company on these forums. The rest of us (the 20-30 other people who actively browse) are here because we love Stargate, and would love to see the game come out, but simply desperately want CME to step up their friggin' quality a notch (or 10).

The OP is just another reason why the community is so "meh" about this game right now. It's not just a total LACK of professionalism in terms of being a company (You know...like keeping employees for any length of time, instead of having a turn-around rate that seems to be higher than McDonalds or Pizza Hut), it's the absolute seeming lack of concern over their forums, which have dwindled away from being a source of information for Stargate fans to one giant flame fest where newcomers are met with "OMG USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION YOU FUKIN TARD" instead of "hey, welcome aboard!", where honest questions regarding the status of the game are met with "DIE IN A FIRE YOU FUKIN TARD", and where anyone who isn't a fanboi gets verbally ridiculed by the 2 or 3 developers still left posting on these forums on a regular basis. When people come here, they don't see a professional company. They see a company being ran by interns, with a few veterans thrown in, but whose presence on the forums is to drop in and say things like "I'm laughing hysterically at you guys" for the community's request for more information, rather than stepping up to the plate and actually proving to people that they still have a working title. They see a company who has employees leaving on a weekly basis, which is something that in the gaming industry is considered mucho bad. Game developing is not a career with a high-turnaround rate. Even the guys who move from company to company (like Aruspex) still end up spending 3-4 years between moves, developing a game fully before they move on. CME can't keep employees longer than a few months, and there are more leaving every day....only to be replaced by interns, or not at all.

It's a sad state of affairs. I think the most disappointing, to me, is the lack of professionalism. I see the developers coming to these forums but instead of welcoming newcomers with open arms, helping to maintain a healthy, friendly atmosphere, they revel in the chaos, actively joining in mocking people, and doing absolutely NOTHING to help promote their company.

Personally, I think Sigil is going to be toppled off of the top of the list as the "worst MMO developer" of the era. I actually kind of puked in my mouth a little when Khestral made his post last night about "laughing hysterically" at people's concerns. It's that total disregard for the community that is driving this company into the ground.

[Sarizaddi]

I've just decided to put negative nancies on my ignore list. Sad that it should come to having to "ignore" someone in the forums, because if it really came to that then those sad sacks should have been banned a long time ago. But regardless, at the least I don't even have to look at their useless and immature drivel anymore. They can bait me and hate me and pick a fight all they want now, because they are talking to a brick wall.

I just feel sad for the newer members of forums, because the sad sacks aren't on their ignore lists, so the newer people have to put up with the negative smack and not know any better that the words of those people are lower than not worth hearing.

[Renfail]

Originally Posted by Sarizaddi

I've just decided to put negative nancies on my ignore list. Sad that it should come to having to "ignore" someone in the forums, because if it really came to that then those sad sacks should have been banned a long time ago. But regardless, at the least I don't even have to look at their useless and immature drivel anymore. They can bait me and hate me and pick a fight all they want now, because they are talking to a brick wall.

I just feel sad for the newer members of forums, because the sad sacks aren't on their ignore lists, so the newer people have to put up with the negative smack and not know any better that the words of those people are lower than not worth hearing.

If there were professional moderators, you would have been banned long ago for your confrontational manner. You would also have never been awarded a moderator position, because a professional forum does not let fanbois become moderators, for the simple fact they are too passionate about the product to remain indifferent.

[SDNcN]

Originally Posted by Sarizaddi

I've just decided to put negative nancies on my ignore list. Sad that it should come to having to "ignore" someone in the forums, because if it really came to that then those sad sacks should have been banned a long time ago. But regardless, at the least I don't even have to look at their useless and immature drivel anymore. They can bait me and hate me and pick a fight all they want now, because they are talking to a brick wall.

I just feel sad for the newer members of forums, because the sad sacks aren't on their ignore lists, so the newer people have to put up with the negative smack and not know any better that the words of those people are lower than not worth hearing.

How exactly do you moderate a forum if you choose to put a segment of the community that you disagree with on your ignore list?
Just curious.

[Ciaran]

Originally Posted by Renfail

If there were professional moderators, you would have been banned long ago for your confrontational manner. You would also have never been awarded a moderator position, because a professional forum does not let fanbois become moderators, for the simple fact they are too passionate about the product to remain indifferent.

This.

[Renfail]

Originally Posted by SDNcN

How exactly do you moderate a forum if you choose to put a segment of the community that you disagree with on your ignore list?
Just curious.

I rest my case.

[bctrainers]

Originally Posted by Renfail

If there were professional moderators, you would have been banned long ago for your confrontational manner. You would also have never been awarded a moderator position, because a professional forum does not let fanbois become moderators, for the simple fact they are too passionate about the product to remain indifferent.

For the record, as far as I am aware... Sarizaddi only can moderate one forum and the sub-forum included with it. That forum would be the RolePlaying (RP) Area.

[Sarizaddi]

Originally Posted by SDNcN

How exactly do you moderate a forum if you choose to put a segment of the community that you disagree with on your ignore list?
Just curious.

I don't. I'm not a moderator. Some of them like to pull the 'moderator' card when they want to attack me, but I'm not one. I'm, if anything, more like a GM's assistant for the RP forums only.

[Renfail]

Originally Posted by bctrainers

For the record, as far as I am aware... Sarizaddi only can moderate one forum and the sub-forum included with it. That forum would be the RolePlaying (RP) Area.

The point is, mate, Sari's been allowed a position of "authority" and is "representative" of the company. This fact alone is why the comments are being made. It has little to do with what section of the forums he/she has control over. It is the simple fact that certain representatives of the company are incapable of performing in a professional manner because they are incapable of remaining indifferent.

Even some of the developers are slipping into mocking phase lately, which only further tarnishes the reputation of the company. It's sad, really. Very, very sad.

[SDNcN]

Originally Posted by Sarizaddi

I don't. I'm not a moderator. Some of them like to pull the 'moderator' card when they want to attack me, but I'm not one. I'm, if anything, more like a GM's assistant for the RP forums only.

Okay, that looks slightly better I guess.

[HadesFLG3]

Originally Posted by Andrew Waltfeld

forgot 42 guests. personally i think it's those missing members and they just don't bother logging in anymore. Either way, they may not contribute but they are still apart of this community. they are just the silent ones.

Guests could be search engine spiders, analythics, and a long etc. of Internet bots.

[bctrainers]

Originally Posted by HadesFLG3

Guests could be search engine spiders, analythics, and a long etc. of Internet bots.

Indeed, lets just split it half and half. One half are actual guests, the others are spiders.

[SDNcN]

Originally Posted by bctrainers

Indeed, lets just split it half and half. One half are actual guests, the others are spiders.

What about the Spider human hybrids?
I believe the Spider People deserve representation on this forum as well.

[bctrainers]

Originally Posted by SDNcN

What about the Spider human hybrids?
I believe the Spider People deserve representation on this forum as well.

Those would be those hidden users non-existent to either side, as the system would then collapse in on its self!

[Sumdian]

Ok so they finish the game and i hope they do but how are they going to sell it i mean make all the DVDs and box's all that stuff cost money and from what i have read they have no money so even if they do finish making it what are the chances they can get it out there for people to play and there are all the other expenses that go along with it to net power servers where are they going to get a big cash flow in to do all that stuff from ? with the game taking so long to make and this so called media black out that has gone on way to long there is just no way people will invest in something like this and with 2 big name MMOs coming out in the next 12 month what are the chances this game will fail in the first 12 months with people waiting for STO or Starwars and not even giving SGW a sniff if they want this game to work they need to be out there putting it in peoples faces not hiding behind a big load of BS media black out crap we keep seeing people want info and lots of it or they just wont come even if you build it

[SG-Extra]

Originally Posted by Renfail

The point is, mate, Sari's been allowed a position of "authority" and is "representative" of the company. This fact alone is why the comments are being made. It has little to do with what section of the forums he/she has control over. It is the simple fact that certain representatives of the company are incapable of performing in a professional manner because they are incapable of remaining indifferent.

Even some of the developers are slipping into mocking phase lately, which only further tarnishes the reputation of the company. It's sad, really. Very, very sad.

Man let it rest. Go alienate everyone on SWTOR's site.

[Ra'khnar]

im sure theres a popular phrase about fire being used in an offensive manner to combat fire.

[SG-Extra]

Originally Posted by Sumdian

Ok so they finish the game and i hope they do but how are they going to sell it i mean make all the DVDs and box's all that stuff cost money and from what i have read they have no money so even if they do finish making it what are the chances they can get it out there for people to play and there are all the other expenses that go along with it to net power servers where are they going to get a big cash flow in to do all that stuff from ? with the game taking so long to make and this so called media black out that has gone on way to long there is just no way people will invest in something like this and with 2 big name MMOs coming out in the next 12 month what are the chances this game will fail in the first 12 months with people waiting for STO or Starwars and not even giving SGW a sniff if they want this game to work they need to be out there putting it in peoples faces not hiding behind a big load of BS media black out crap we keep seeing people want info and lots of it or they just wont come even if you build it

No way I can read that without punctuation. Major eyestrain.

[Renfail]

Originally Posted by SG-Extra

Man let it rest. Go alienate everyone on SWTOR's site.

Fail

Another +1 for you, though!

Here's a cookie for the effort.

[Cyaneyed]

The problem is, in recent weeks, the difference between negativity towards the game, negativity between members, and legitimate points of contention around the game, devs who post, and CME/Firesky in general, has been blurred. All of these things are being mixed up in a hundred different 'arguments' (I use this term lightly since this is the internet...).

Originally Posted by SG-Extra

Man let it rest. Go alienate everyone on SWTOR's site.

I personally think that alot of the posts Renfail made here address very pertinent issues at this point in time.

I also value Sarizaddi as an important member of the community. Does that mean I have to 'take sides' and say one of them is doing something wrong?

No. Taking sides and making posts like you did here only furthers negativity, and (bear in mind this is an observation not an insult) makes the community look immature.

I think that certain people (not just referring to the above quote) could alleviate alot of situations by not posting one line 'retorts' that add nothing to debate whatsoever and perpetuate nothing but negativity.

[Kadael]

/dies

[Supremeaaron]

Originally Posted by SG-Extra

Man let it rest. Go alienate everyone on SWTOR's site.

hmm ok if you feel that way, then may be among the first to say bye.